- -
UserInfo

Welcome Anonymous




Membership:
Latest: Colt17
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 1018

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 1
Bots: 12
Total: 13
Who Is Where:
Visitors:
01. News
 Bots:
01. Forums
02. Forums
03. Forums
04. Forums
05. Forums
06. Forums
07. CPGNuCalendar
08. Forums
09. Forums
10. Forums
11. Forums
12. CPGNuCalendar

We have received
57821108
page views since
July 27, 2010

Hits New Today: 11385
Hits New Yesterday: 46084

Server Time
24 January 2022 07:56:33 AEDT (GMT +11)
Mustang Technical Discussion > Mustang Projects > Project Pheonix (page 20) > Community Forums > Mustang Forum Australia - Mustang Tech

View posts since last visit β€’ View posts last 24 hours β€’ View unanswered posts
Forum Index > Mustang Projects

Project Pheonix Reply to topic

Author Message
66STNG
Mustang Star

Offline
Joined: Aug 07, 2013
Posts: 670
Location: wollongong

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


.ok so Santa left me some JBA stainless shorties, i must have been good.

.
As you can see there is sooooooooooooooooo much room LHS


.and again on the RHS

.
As usual it there is an issue, the steering knuckle hits the header, great...the other knuckle is under the header


so do i drill a hole in the headers and slide the steering connector through the pipes?? or start the car and wait till the headers glow. then smash the shit out of them with a mallet....
i seam to go 1 step forward 2 steps back lately....
so now im thinking Santa has been watching me and i was on the Naughty list.....Doh

.


66 basket case

View user's profileSend e-mail
ozbilt
Site Admin

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 10896
Location: Duggo Ranch

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Column is too long. Should be flush with the firewall for a rack. The longer the link between the rack & column the better.


Kerry

To our wives and sweethearts. May they never meet

View user's profile
ozbilt
Site Admin

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 10896
Location: Duggo Ranch

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


It will always be tight as they are made for LHD. So yes you will have to mod them.


Kerry

To our wives and sweethearts. May they never meet

View user's profile
66STNG
Mustang Star

Offline
Joined: Aug 07, 2013
Posts: 670
Location: wollongong

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Oz, was just moving the column around to see how close I could get it. I think I'll take off the headers and take them to an exhaust place, I'd mod them myself but they are stainless ( of course) just to make things a little harder....


66 basket case

View user's profileSend e-mail
Nuts
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 31, 2010
Posts: 4583
Location: South Canberra Too Close To The Bloody Snow

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Have you seen this Engine Masters comparison between cast, mid and long tube headers??

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7_lSU3D0jw


My Motto - Don't get Caught! If you do, Blame Someone Else!

MUSTANG - Fantastic Not Plastic

View user's profileSend e-mail
boofhead
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Nov 02, 2010
Posts: 4505
Location: Brisbane

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Just slightly dent the headers to help fit them. You are just about there. I have had to always modifiy LHD headers for a RHD car. Some are easier than others. Your not to far away.


As far as the engine masters test referenced above - it is a good one and worked out as I expected. But do not equate those very nice for cast headers to a stock Windsor header. The ford unit is total rubbish.


I will someday think of something clever to say.

View user's profile
66STNG
Mustang Star

Offline
Joined: Aug 07, 2013
Posts: 670
Location: wollongong

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


[quote="boofhead"]Just slightly dent the headers to help fit them. You are just about there. I have had to always modifiy LHD headers for a RHD car. Some are easier than others. Your not to far away.


Do I heat them up, or beat the shit out of them like a red headed step child..


66 basket case

View user's profileSend e-mail
boofhead
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Nov 02, 2010
Posts: 4505
Location: Brisbane

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Just use a heavy hammer - support the tube so it does not crush where not necessary.
One side needs little clearance and the other more because of the way the engine moves to one side under load. In most cases a 1/16th is enough an 1/8th is ideal. I have had to move tubes now and then so this is an option though looks mostly a small dent with a ball-peen hammer in few spots is all you need (other than where the steering shaft is to go - maybe).


I will someday think of something clever to say.

Last edited by boofhead on Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:42 am; edited 1 time in total

View user's profile
Nuts
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 31, 2010
Posts: 4583
Location: South Canberra Too Close To The Bloody Snow

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


boofhead wrote
Just slightly dent the headers to help fit them. You are just about there. I have had to always modifiy LHD headers for a RHD car. Some are easier than others. Your not to far away.


As far as the engine masters test referenced above - it is a good one and worked out as I expected. But do not equate those very nice for cast headers to a stock Windsor header. The ford unit is total rubbish.


What I was getting at Boof is that the difference in HP between the shorties and stock headers using stock heads would be not be noticeable until over 5k. Most people don't regularly go anywhere near that in a street driven car, especially an auto. Just saying!


My Motto - Don't get Caught! If you do, Blame Someone Else!

MUSTANG - Fantastic Not Plastic

View user's profileSend e-mail
boofhead
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Nov 02, 2010
Posts: 4505
Location: Brisbane

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


I do agree - the benefit is minimal. The stock Windsor head's exhaust port is terrible so post that crappy port any improvements do not always result in a significant increase. Now a long tube header is better because the length results it tuned for lower RPM. Short tubes are optimised for higher RPM. This is shown clearly in the above video with a massive improvement in performance at a lower RPM over the other short tube headers (both cast and shorties). Now to a large degree the Camshaft has a big influence on the benefit found from the exhaust header selected. A stock Cam Windsor (especially with stock heads) will show far lower benefit than if a performance camshaft is utilised. Naturally many install these parts for future benefits from future upgrades. In any case a street engine benefits most from increases in engine capacity or using a forced induction upgrade such as a super charger.


I will someday think of something clever to say.

Last edited by boofhead on Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:24 pm; edited 3 times in total

View user's profile
Shaunp
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 29, 2010
Posts: 4443
Location: Brisbane Bayside

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Do you have 65 or 66 mounts in it that makes a big difference, I'm not fan of the JBA shorties the 351 convesrion ones Astro got were junk. 66 mounts moves the engine down and back, You know the RHD headmans may clear the shaft. Got a set here


Last edited by Shaunp on Fri Dec 30, 2016 4:25 pm; edited 1 time in total

View user's profile
66STNG
Mustang Star

Offline
Joined: Aug 07, 2013
Posts: 670
Location: wollongong

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Shaunp wrote
Do you have 65 or 66 mounts in it that makes a big difference, I'm not fan of the JBA shorties the 351 convesrion ones Astro got were junk. 66 mounts moves the engine down and back, You know the RHD headmans may clear the shaft. Got a set here

.
Well I ordered 66 mounts, not sure how to tell the difference.
The reason I got the JBA,s is due to the GP 40 heads, it was either those or hi Po,s....


66 basket case

View user's profileSend e-mail
ozbilt
Site Admin

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 10896
Location: Duggo Ranch

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


66STNG wrote
Shaunp wrote
Do you have 65 or 66 mounts in it that makes a big difference, I'm not fan of the JBA shorties the 351 convesrion ones Astro got were junk. 66 mounts moves the engine down and back, You know the RHD headmans may clear the shaft. Got a set here

.
Well I ordered 66 mounts, not sure how to tell the difference.
The reason I got the JBA,s is due to the GP 40 heads, it was either those or hi Po,s....


Yes but your car is RHD they are made for LHD only. Going by the pics you posted I cannot see how they can be modded. You have to get that steering link longer and that will only make it worse for room.


Kerry

To our wives and sweethearts. May they never meet

View user's profile
66STNG
Mustang Star

Offline
Joined: Aug 07, 2013
Posts: 670
Location: wollongong

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


[quote="ozbilt"][quote="66STNG"]
Shaunp wrote
Do you have


Yes but your car is RHD they are made for LHD only. Going by the pics you posted I cannot see how they can be modded. You have to get that steering link longer and that will only make it worse for room.

.
So, how do I fix it, I can only mod either the headers or the rack.
Help........ðŸ”Β₯ Or this may happen..


66 basket case

View user's profileSend e-mail
scott66stang
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 4713
Location: Baldivis WA

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Headers gave me a big headache, i had access to a pacemaker wholesaler thanks to Exhausted and took home many versions of headers from XY- EF shorties, long tube, tri Y's no pair would ever fit and needed lots of mods to clear the steering (i have RRS) XY long tube was the closest for RHS but still needed 2 tubes modified but then left side hit starter.
I gave up and made my own.
Checkout pages 26-28 and 30-31 of my build
www.mustangtech.com.au...t=375.html




Converting Rust to Something Drivable

66 Fastback Fairstang Project www.mustangtech.com.au...art=0.html
67 convertibuild project www.mustangtech.com.au...art=0.html
Thought Collecting Couch www.mustangtech.com.au...=1739.html
Caddy Wacked www.mustangtech.com.au...art=0.html

Last edited by scott66stang on Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:13 pm; edited 1 time in total

View user's profile
All times are Australia/Sydney
Post new topic Reply to topic Forum Index > Mustang Projects
Page 20 of 29


Jump to:

TopPostersToday
   Rayatswan 
 Posts: 
 2 

   Dwayne 
 Posts: 
 1 

LatestForumPosts
Last 10 Forum Messages
Rusty 66 Coupe
Last post by Rayatswan in Mustang Projects on Jan 24, 2022 05:26:04

2017 mustang Fastback
Last post by Colt17 in Wanted - Parts on Jan 19, 2022 17:25:15

Spring Compressor - Expressions of Interest
Last post by scollist in Mustang Parts for Sale on Jan 18, 2022 14:37:14

trans sticking
Last post by hybrid in Pre 1973 on Jan 11, 2022 09:38:26

Pertronix 3 with a SAAS tachometer...
Last post by mungus in Pre 1973 on Nov 23, 2021 21:53:52

front wheel bearings and pads
Last post by ozbilt in Pre 1973 on Nov 21, 2021 11:14:33

minimum disc thickness
Last post by ozbilt in Pre 1973 on Nov 21, 2021 11:08:59

Vale Ian Jackson (Ausjacko)
Last post by Pinto-Pete in Events on Nov 09, 2021 22:56:08

Mrsozbilt's 69 Mach 1 freshen up
Last post by moe in Mustang Projects on Nov 09, 2021 20:38:33

67 front suspension components- bilstien etc
Last post by Ronin187 in Mustang Parts for Sale on Nov 02, 2021 16:07:12