Late Windsors- which is best for transplant?

[shaun071]

Part of my plan for the 69 Coupe is to fit an EB-AU 5.0, the question is which model Falcon has the better engine least hassle for transplanting? I will be removing the injection and fitting a carby intake and distributor so I'm not interested in which has the best injection set up etc. I have seen AU Tickford XR8 engines reasonably cheap but have heard it's hard to get headers that will work with GT40P heads for our cars. Any suggestions?

Shaun

[boofhead]

The main issues are;
1) Headers for GT40p heads are hard to get due to the plug angle,
2) Gearbox ECU for the BTR auto box if using the original electronically controlled gearbox,
3) Starter motor location (depending on RHD or LHD) car

So you know about the headers, given you did not say which gearbox, in any case, you need the separate gearbox ecu which is in the earlier cars (not sure of the dates - NC fairlane has the separate gearbox ECU. If your changing the auto to a C4 then it is a non issue which also moves the starter motor location. Lastly gearbox choice can affect the rear cross member and tail shaft length required. There are also other little items such as the radiator lower water feed location is opposite side and different accessories which means other minor changes, e.g., wiring change to suite the modern alternator. All easy to work around or change it all to 69 / 70 style parts.

[ozbilt]

Headers for GP40

From what I read, these fit ......

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/p ... /overview/

They go close to the starter motor, however there still appears to be room for a heat shield.

[shaun071]

Thanks for the info. I've got an AOD that I was using in an XD Falcon behind a 351c. I've got most of what I need to fit the AOD, lokar tv cable and shifter linkages, just missing the xmember and a yoke. Diff is a 9" with 3.5 gears.
Thanks for the link for headers Ozbilt, looks like an AU engine will be the go. I had an AU3 xr8 ute- if the Mustang matches its performance I'd be happy with it.

[hybrid]

Shame you're in QLD.
I have a spare new AOD yoke around somewhere.

But I hate posting stuff

[nassi]

Thanks for the info. I've got an AOD that I was using in an XD Falcon behind a 351c. I've got most of what I need to fit the AOD, lokar tv cable and shifter linkages, just missing the xmember and a yoke. Diff is a 9" with 3.5 gears.
Thanks for the link for headers Ozbilt, looks like an AU engine will be the go. I had an AU3 xr8 ute- if the Mustang matches its performance I'd be happy with it.

If you are going AU XR8, look for series 111 sedan or series 11 rebel, as these are 220kw the utes were only 200kw due to the 1 peice tailshaft.

[shaun071]

Thanks for the info. I've got an AOD that I was using in an XD Falcon behind a 351c. I've got most of what I need to fit the AOD, lokar tv cable and shifter linkages, just missing the xmember and a yoke. Diff is a 9" with 3.5 gears.
Thanks for the link for headers Ozbilt, looks like an AU engine will be the go. I had an AU3 xr8 ute- if the Mustang matches its performance I'd be happy with it.

If you are going AU XR8, look for series 111 sedan or series 11 rebel, as these are 220kw the utes were only 200kw due to the 1 peice tailshaft.

Did some of the AU XR8's come with factory alloy heads? I remember reading it somewhere when I had the ute.

[shaun071]

Shame you're in QLD.
I have a spare new AOD yoke around somewhere.

But I hate posting stuff

No shame in being in QLD 8-0..........

[nassi]

Thanks for the info. I've got an AOD that I was using in an XD Falcon behind a 351c. I've got most of what I need to fit the AOD, lokar tv cable and shifter linkages, just missing the xmember and a yoke. Diff is a 9" with 3.5 gears.
Thanks for the link for headers Ozbilt, looks like an AU engine will be the go. I had an AU3 xr8 ute- if the Mustang matches its performance I'd be happy with it.

If you are going AU XR8, look for series 111 sedan or series 11 rebel, as these are 220kw the utes were only 200kw due to the 1 peice tailshaft.

Did some of the AU XR8's come with factory alloy heads? I remember reading it somewhere when I had the ute.

Yes, dates and models here..
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread ... lloy+heads

[hybrid]

No shame in being in QLD 8-0..........

I guess you're talking about League?
Stupid game... you can keep it.

[ozbilt]

No shame in being in QLD 8-0..........

I guess you're talking about League?
Stupid game... you can keep it.

+ 1 No interest here either. Thugs play the game.

How it sounds to people that do not care ......

Firstly, imagine every time within a day that football is mentioned by someone else. Secondly, replace it with something that you don't want to hear about every day. Say... Archaeology. Then, think carefully about how an average day would pan out.

So, you awaken to the clock radio. It's 7AM. Just as you awaken, it's time for the news and archaeology already. Not news and other historical investigations, like library restorations or museum openings (unless there's another event happening), but just the news and archaelogy. Malaysian plane is still missing. Pistorius is still on trial. New dig announced in Giza. Ancient Mayan temple discovered. Exciting stuff.

Time for a bite to eat over the morning TV. More news. More archaeology. Yes, you are aware of what is up with the missing plane. Fine. Now the archaeology in video format. Video of people dusting off some skulls and bits of pottery. All well and good, but archaeology isn't your thing. It would be nice to hear about something else.

Even when it isn't archaeology season, the media follow noted archaeologists. They drive fast cars, date beautiful women, advertise fragrances, and sometimes they go to nightclubs and act in the worst possible way. Scandals erupt as the tabloids follow these new celebrities when they're not searching the past for answers. It is entirely possible you can recite the names of certain researchers, even if you don't pay attention to archaeology. You don't know what transfer season is, but you know that someone was transferred to a dig in Peru for a sum of money that could fund the London Underground for two whole days.

Out of the car at 8:55 and into work. What are the colleagues talking about, I wonder? Oh, Jones dropped a 3,890 year old pot and smashed it? What a useless wanker! Someone should do something unpleasant to him. And don't even ask about the unfortunate incident in Athens two years ago - you'll be there all day! Breaking a pillar like that! We don't talk about that here, mate. What? You don't want to discuss the finer points of the prevalence of phallic imagery in Pompeii? Is there something wrong with you?

The drive home from work. Every thirty minutes, no matter the station, someone mentions the archaeology. Best sit in silence. Drive past a huge billboard with a black and white picture of a rakishly handsome archaeologist draped over an impossibly beautiful woman. He's winking at you. Trowel in his left hand, supermodel in the right. Jurassic, by Calvin Klein.

And now the pub. A nice pub with a beer garden. Posters in the windows. LIVE EXCAVATION AT THE VALLEY OF THE KINGS! All of it on a huge TV with the volume up too loud. Drunken people yelling at the screen. "SEND IT FOR CARBON DATING, YOU USELESS ***K!" "WHAT ARE YOU ON, MATE? DUST THE ANCIENT MEDALLION GENTLY! SMELTING METHODS OF THE TIME PRODUCED VERY SOFT AND IMPURE METALS EASILY PRONE TO DISFIGURATION!" All this from two men out of a crowd of twenty. One lousy drunken idiot and his chum ruin the image of other archaeology fans. Carbon dating report from the lab updates on TV, read by a man employed because they've been following the beautiful science since they were a boy. The drunk chimes in again. "WHAT PHARAOH'S REIGN DID YOU SAY? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS SAYS ABOUT THE UNDERPINNINGS OF OUR THEORY OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT OF 4TH BC EGYPT? GET IN, MATE!" A cheer cascades through the building and you can only wonder why.

Best go home and avoid anyone who might be drinking and singing. You once met a disagreeable chap who threatened to beat you up because you didn't watch the archaeology. "Not a late paleolithic era supporter are you? Think you're better than me? I'll have you, you scrawny tw*t!"

To bed. To repeat the cycle tomorrow. The inescapable, inevitability that wherever you go, someone, somewhere, is just dying to talk to you about the archaeology.

[hybrid]

Driving fast cars and dating beautiful women?
Sounds like the inhabitants of Mustangtech to me.

[nassi]

Driving fast cars and dating beautiful women?
Sounds like the inhabitants of Mustangtech to me.

Bugger, I'm on the wrong forum....... unless asperations count.

[ozbilt]

Driving fast cars and dating beautiful women?
Sounds like the inhabitants of Mustangtech to me.

Bugger, I'm on the wrong forum....... unless asperations count.

I hope they do, that's I have ......

[nassi]

Your in good company then.