Mustang II suspension
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Mustang II suspension
Hi Guys, Has anyone installed Mustang II suspension into their early Mustang.
The installation looks easy enough but what about performance, If this stuff handles as well as the sales people say it does then everyone would be doing this conversion!
Any thoughts appreciated.
The installation looks easy enough but what about performance, If this stuff handles as well as the sales people say it does then everyone would be doing this conversion!
Any thoughts appreciated.
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First thing is they are not all the same. Some are great, some are not so great - like anything. Using a Mustang II spindle is not the best approach today. As far as install - they are all easy enough. A lot of kits use original holes in the rails to locate the cross member. Far easier than welding spindles.
Most owners do not bother because the majority builds do not need it and do not want the hassle of cost and engineers report etc.
I personally believe the front need more support because you are cutting significant sections of strength. So I would run support structure from the frame (front and mid) back to the main body as either separate structure or a part of the roll cage.
Now which product for your build - I would want a superior front setup and assuming your thinking AutoX you want a setup with superior geometry features. One I would consider is the Roadster Shop set up. Used corvette spindles superior arms and geometry with easy modern alignment and allows up to a 9 to 10 inch from rim. See link for a good overview.
http://roadstershop.com/roadster-shop-f ... g-chassis/
As you can see in the RS set up alot of material around the top Arm connection points with secondary supports and extra strength add back to the torque boxes while a lot of the Mustang II fronts set ups use just a skinny tube as a connection point for the upper arms, no extra strength, no tie in to the rest of the car, old Mustang II spindle and only a basic cross member. There are other products around which are also good just take your time and research.
Most owners do not bother because the majority builds do not need it and do not want the hassle of cost and engineers report etc.
I personally believe the front need more support because you are cutting significant sections of strength. So I would run support structure from the frame (front and mid) back to the main body as either separate structure or a part of the roll cage.
Now which product for your build - I would want a superior front setup and assuming your thinking AutoX you want a setup with superior geometry features. One I would consider is the Roadster Shop set up. Used corvette spindles superior arms and geometry with easy modern alignment and allows up to a 9 to 10 inch from rim. See link for a good overview.
http://roadstershop.com/roadster-shop-f ... g-chassis/
As you can see in the RS set up alot of material around the top Arm connection points with secondary supports and extra strength add back to the torque boxes while a lot of the Mustang II fronts set ups use just a skinny tube as a connection point for the upper arms, no extra strength, no tie in to the rest of the car, old Mustang II spindle and only a basic cross member. There are other products around which are also good just take your time and research.
I will someday think of something clever to say.
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That's the shit Boof
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This is going to be a headache, I am really looking forward to it!
At this stage I am still leaning towards modified original suspension because I am keen to run the old "Trans Am" style brakes.
More research required.
At this stage I am still leaning towards modified original suspension because I am keen to run the old "Trans Am" style brakes.
More research required.
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It sure is - if I was going to go to that next level in my Fastback I was going to go with this set up. I would also go the independent rear if the money tree would extend to it.Shaunp wrote:That's the shit Boof
I went to Morgan Park last weekend to watch some of the racing - man I wanted to join in. Shame I did not get involved a few years ago.
I will someday think of something clever to say.
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Yeah we could have gone 1/2 in the Banana yellow 67 T/A car Woody has. It did ok at the last round with someone else driving it.boofhead wrote:It sure is - if I was going to go to that next level in my Fastback I was going to go with this set up. I would also go the independent rear if the money tree would extend to it.Shaunp wrote:That's the shit Boof
I went to Morgan Park last weekend to watch some of the racing - man I wanted to join in. Shame I did not get involved a few years ago.
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That would have been great.Shaunp wrote:Yeah we could have gone 1/2 in the Banana yellow 67 T/A car Woody has. It did ok at the last round with someone else driving it.boofhead wrote:It sure is - if I was going to go to that next level in my Fastback I was going to go with this set up. I would also go the independent rear if the money tree would extend to it.Shaunp wrote:That's the shit Boof
I went to Morgan Park last weekend to watch some of the racing - man I wanted to join in. Shame I did not get involved a few years ago.
I will someday think of something clever to say.
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Wow, that is the shit alright. Not too bad on price for what you get either.
"The simple answer is, even if I have decided I still don't know what to do."
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SO what about the late model falcon IRS stuff? It sells on the bay a lot for not too much money. Is the track way off or something?
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Yes - Track is to wide to start.
I will someday think of something clever to say.
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Tempting to sell the fast back and just build one up from one of these as a proper pro touring track pig. Maybe I should send a T code shell and one of these chassis ozbuilts way to make one for me. ...
Wonder whats involved in mounting the unibody on frame?
Wonder whats involved in mounting the unibody on frame?
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The market is crap ATM, so keep the fastback. Just build the other anyway.
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Good idea Trav.
"The simple answer is, even if I have decided I still don't know what to do."
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Cant justify two toys unfortunately...even if i do drive mine to work making it a daily i guess??