PROTEKTIV (previously MING) and their BOEING "approval"

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PROTEKTIV (previously MING) and their BOEING "approval"

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So we are in the process of buying a car from a dealer, and of course after you make the deal they take you to the next lady that tries to sell you a bunch of "protection" products for interior and exterior.

I remember most people in the paint/panel industry saying to stay away from all the paint protection products - particularly from the dealer, but I took some of the information from them anyway. They mentioned several times that it was tested and approved by BOEING.

Tonight I decided to read the article they gave me on this. It was tested using the BOEING D6-17487 specification.

But upon reading it, this is what it essentially says about the 4 parts of this test specification.

Test 1 - Sandwich Corrosion Test
This test evaluates if the product being tested causes additional corrosion from a control group in various settings of temperature.
So this test has absolutely nothing to do with evaluating whether the product is actually any good at PROTECTING your paint any better than nothing at all. It's just saying that the product will not cause any more corrosion than not using it.

Test 2 - Acrylic Crazing Test
This test evaluates if stretched and stressed acrylic plastic shows any crazing or degradation when exposed to the test product in certain conditions
Sorry, what?! The cracking/crazing of a piece of plastic has what to do with your paint? Again, this has nothing to do with whether the product works as advertised. It's just saying that the product does not cause damage (to an irrelevant material). Is anyone noticing a pattern here?

Test 3 - Paint Softening Test
This test assures that the products used do not affect a panels paint hardness
Again, this is NOT evaluating the performance of the product as a paint protector. It's just saying that it won't make your paint softer if you apply it - and neither it should. Water would pass this test :lol:

Test 4 - Hydrogen Embrittlement Test
Hydrogen embrittlement is the process by which various metals, most importantly high-strength steel, become brittle and fracture following exposure to hydrogen
So applying the product will not make your steel brittle. Again this has nothing to do with whether the product protects your paint as advertised.
I can certainly understand why BOEING would want to perform these tests before anything is applied to their aircraft, however it has nothing to do with protecting the paint on your car.

I do wonder how they can get away with pushing the product in this way. It's very deceptive.
I wish I had have read this while I was still at the dealer because I would have pulled them up on it for sure. I need to call them tomorrow because this protection has ended up on our contract even though we didn't verbally agree to it, so it could be a fun conversation.
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Re: PROTEKTIV (previously MING) and their BOEING "approval"

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The amount of money you pay for that junk will pay for many bottles of decent polish. Tell us you didn't pay for it?
Avoid it altogether. Get it off the contract, car and dealership. And slap the salesperson they are just making more commission.
Somewhere I have a picture of a mark 2 Escort with a massive rust hole just under the Ming sticker (one of very many rust holes)

Clay bar it the day you get it, polish it with McGuires or better every 6 months and have a happy shiny car life. My main squeezes '12 Crummydore looks like new following this process but I won't admit to polishing the opposition product.
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Well we have put down the deposit, but we did not agree to the protection.
I've read that the people that used to sell it when it was still under the MING branding were called MING moles :lol:
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Try some of George's sealant that I recently recommended to him.

Sealants sit between waxes and quartz coatings on the protection scale. A proper coating will set you back around $1k for a pro to do and last a couple of years if properly maintained.
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I will probably just stick to wax and elbow grease I think.
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