The Ironsteed project

[Foresight]

Alright you guys may have caught on that I am up to something. I am dreaming up a 67 shelby clone to be my daily driver (insurance permitting).
I don't know when the project will happen but luckily time is on my side!

I am a little tired of my friends giving the old jap car defense of "at least I can turn a corner" so I have decided that I want to build the 67 to be a jap car eater both on the strip and on the twisties but gentle enough to be a daily. To do this though I will need everyones help. What I thought would be cool is if I post up an issue or aspect of the build every day (or so) and everyone gives their ideas. What will hopefully eventuate is a car that will be the combined goodness of this awesome forum.

I will keep a dynamic summary of the build in this post which will evolve as everyone puts their ideas together.

If I miss anything or something doesn't makes sense just tell me and I'll fix it.

Let the ideas flow!

Look:
1967 shelby replica RHD
Acapulco Blue/white stripes
Wheels: Low profile tires (for the handling not the fully sickness)

Drivetrain
Engine: supercharged 5.0 EFI V8
Gearbox: Manual 5 Speed gear box
Clutch: Kevlar clutch plate on an aluminium flywheel, cable operated
Axles: Strange axles with aluminium Currie center
Diff: Limited slip 9" for road duties is all that is needed

Breathing
Extractors: JBA shorty's
Exaust:
Mufflers: Flowmasters
Intercooler: Not necessary

Braking
Power disc brakes: Brembo's all round or Willwood (same as muzz67)

Handling
Stock suspension all round set up 70 Trans Am style inc Watts link
Monty Carlo Bar and Export Brace
Upgrade to a 1" Front Sway Bar fit an adjustable "blade" type sway bar
Upgraded shocks Koni or Bilstein
Shelby drop with wedge kit
stock with TA mods Upper Control Arms
Ride hight adjustment not needed
Quality tires
Subframe connectors not needed, but fit the other torque box if a 67

Front Suspension
Roller Bearing Lower Control Arms TA style
Adjustable Strut Rods they are standard, however use TA mods here
Roller Spring Perchs
Mustang II conversion (out the door)

Rear Suspension
Watts TA style rear end with narrow leaf springs, move inner wheel arch to meet rail, TA style flares on the outer 1/4 panels

Visibility
Decent side & rear view mirrors
Led lights
Upgraded headlights

Ambience
Sound system
Air conditioning
Leather Bucket seats
Power windows
Remote locking
Dakota digital dash

Safety
Fuel cell Fuel Safe make a drop in one
Collapsable steering coloumn
Shelby style padded roll bar
Lap sash belts

[Kosa]

Wheels: Low profile tires (for the handling not the fully sickness)

i was under the impression that low profile tires are a negative for cornering?

then again there is a high possibility i may be wrong...

[Foresight]

I am pretty sure they help because the lower sidewalls improve lateral stability

Maybe that can be the topic

What are the best types of tyres for a track car

[Kosa]

i did my research and i stand corrected lol

[S[_]SPECT]

Well, well… thought you were asking some leading questions…
If you're serious about handling, I'd forget the MII front end…
Either go with the Shelby drop theme, or go for a Macpherson setup… (Just not RRS)

I have been looking at various front ends for a while now and found the Fatman setup recently..
http://www.fatmanfab.com/catalogpage.php?page=37
It replaces the entire front end, and can include power rack, and disc brakes, you lose the Neg Camber gain of the stock setup in corners, however what you get is more stability with 0 dumpster (stability = higher speed). Set the camber for the conditions and you're away.


If you want a REALLY sexy rear end… try Maier's extreme rear.. but if versatility is key.. consider an Art Morrison 5 Link rear clip…
It has a combination of 3 link (for track) and 4 link (for strip) setups in the one package.. you just setup for the task at hand

Both of these however might be a bit exotic for a daily.. just putting it out there.

$0.02

[Foresight]

I like it suspect, that's the sort of feedback I'm after, great post.

Now everyone jump in and give your 2 cents on what you think of those options!

[donoauto]

Lee , could you send me some seeds from your money tree so I can plant my own.....lol.
Only because of space requirements for turbo's ,maybe supercharging is the go? I'd love to see twin turbo's but where do they go?

[ozbilt]

As Ironsteed stands:

Look:
1967 shelby replica
Acapulco Blue/white stripes
Wheels: Low profile tires (for the handling not the fully sickness)

Drivetrain
Engine: supercharged 5.0 EFI V8
Gearbox: Manual 5 Speed gear box
Clutch: Kevlar clutch plate on an aluminium flywheel, cable operated
Axles: Strange axles with aluminium Currie center
Diff: Limited slip 9" for road duties is all that is needed

Breathing
Extractors: JBA shorty's
Exaust:
Mufflers: Flowmasters
Intercooler: Not necessary[

Braking
Power disc brakes: Brembo's all round or Willwood (same as muzz67)

Handling
Stock suspension all round set up 70 Trans Am style inc Watts link
Monty Carlo Bar and Export Brace
Upgrade to a 1" Front Sway Bar fit an adjustable "blade" type sway bar
Upgraded shocks Koni or Bilstein
Shelby drop with wedge kit
stock with TA mods Upper Control Arms
Ride hight adjustment not needed
Quality tires
Subframe connectors not needed, but fit the other torque box if a 67

Front Suspension
Roller Bearing Lower Control Arms TA style
Adjustable Strut Rods they are standard, however use TA mods here
Roller Spring Perchs
Possible mustang II conversion nope

Rear Suspension
Watts TA style rear end with narrow leaf springs, move inner wheel arch to meet rail, TA style flares on the outer 1/4 panels

Visibility
Decent side & rear view mirrors
Led lights
Upgraded headlights

Ambience
Sound system
Air conditioning
Leather Bucket seats
Power windows
Remote locking
Dakota digital dash
tracking device

Safety
Fuel cell Fuel Safe make a drop in one
Collapsable steering coloumn[/quote]

You can actually build this car economically if you go about it the right way. Having the shell on a jig to carry out all the mods before paint & then it is just a case of assembling. Lots of TA tricks to incorporate while the shell is on the jig, but easily done when carried out in the correct order.

I have built a few TA style Watts links & carried out all the other mods. By the time Q is ready next year you will be able to see the Targa car we are building here with all those mods on board.

Car pictured below has the Watts, but the diff is at full droop being on the lift

[hybrid]

Sounds like you have too much money Lee. I can help you get rid of some

[ozbilt]

Sounds like you have too much money Lee. I can help you get rid of some

I am already helping with that thankyou....

[ozbilt]

BTW Lee, I will have an A code 67 fastback that can be turned into anything as it will start as a shell. Lots of stuff already at Sean's as that project was at my shop in the US years ago. Could be a very economical start to the project.

[cage]

Sh!t Lee, you have certainly made up for being in the wilderness for a while. Give me some of the stuff you are on mate. I love it, hope you have the cash to get this puppy to a real deal. Hope you don't mind me borrowing some of the ideas about parts that will spring up from this post.

[ozbilt]

The stuff I listed above would pass engineering & also meet track regs if you wanted to "historic" race it.

Only thing missing would be a Shelby type roll bar, but not sure on WA regs for that one. They are padded & the inertia reel seat belts are top & bottom mounted to the bar.

[nassi]

The stuff I listed above would pass engineering & also meet track regs if you wanted to "historic" race it.

Only thing missing would be a Shelby type roll bar, but not sure on WA regs for that one. They are padded & the inertia reel seat belts are top & bottom mounted to the bar.

The shelby roll bar will pass in WA, we licensed one about 18 months ago.
cheers

[ozbilt]

The stuff I listed above would pass engineering & also meet track regs if you wanted to "historic" race it.

Only thing missing would be a Shelby type roll bar, but not sure on WA regs for that one. They are padded & the inertia reel seat belts are top & bottom mounted to the bar.

The shelby roll bar will pass in WA, we licensed one about 18 months ago.
cheers

That is good news, seems sanity is prevailing, maybe even spreading.... na, I am dreaming of utopia again .....